Jay Cutler is exactly where he wants to be.

Four years after retiring from the NFL, the former quarterback is planning the next phase of his career. Like Jay E! News in an exclusive conversation while promoting its new meat subscription CUTS: There’s a reason it took the Very Cavallari alum so long to come up with a game plan.

“For me,” said the 38-year-old, “it was very important to me to get out of football and then to take a little time to find out exactly what and with whom I want to get involved. I’ve been playing soccer since I was 5 or 6 years old so it really has been my entire focus for most of my life. I really didn’t have a Plan B, so I wanted to make sure my next pair of things to do were things I loved to do and long lasting. “

For more from Jay, including the latest on Ex parenting Kristin Cavallari and his personal advice to other professional athletes Aaron Rodgers, read our interview below!