It’s hard to imagine Kris Jenner uninvolved in her family’s expenses, but at some point in her life that was actually the norm.

In a new interview as WSJ. The Kardashian-Jenner family matriarch, the magazine’s digital cover star, reflected the surprising fact that she wasn’t always part of her own finances. She admitted that in her 2012 memoir – according to the WSJ. The magazine’s article – that she had “never paid a bill” during her more than ten-year marriage to the deceased Robert Kardashian Sr.. However, as soon as they parted, everything changed.

“One day,” she recalled the website, “my friend Shelli Azoff said to me when i got divorced [from Robert]”How much does your gardener cost?” And I said, “I don’t know.” And she said, “You don’t know?” That was the turning point for me: I was embarrassed that I didn’t know. “

The Mughal, who has since mastered all of her children’s six lucrative careers, realized that she had to take matters into her own hands. “I woke up one day with tasks I didn’t have the day before. And I had to find out,” she said. “And the good news is, I’m careful … I’m a quick learner and I knew I had to bring it together.”